{"id":132170,"date":"2020-10-07T16:36:18","date_gmt":"2020-10-07T14:36:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/?p=132170"},"modified":"2020-10-07T16:36:18","modified_gmt":"2020-10-07T14:36:18","slug":"orlando-ursic-umetnost-jemljem-kot-vodilo-v-mojem-zivljenju","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/orlando-ursic-umetnost-jemljem-kot-vodilo-v-mojem-zivljenju\/","title":{"rendered":"Orlando Ur\u0161i\u010d: \u00bbUmetnost jemljem kot vodilo v mojem \u017eivljenju\u00ab"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pisatelj, urednik, zalo\u017enik, literat, leto\u0161nji prejemnik Glazerjeve listine, nagrade mesta Maribor za vrhunske dose\u017eke na podro\u010dju kulture. Vse to je Orlando, Bistri\u010dan, ki ima v Mariboru svojo zalo\u017ebo Litera.<\/p>\n<p>V nadaljevanju objavljamo del pogovora z Bistri\u010danom, ki se spra\u0161uje, kje bi bil danes, \u010de v tema\u010dnih trenutkih otro\u0161tva ne bi iskal tola\u017ebe prav v knjigah.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na katero svoje delo ste najbolj ponosni?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Prva knjiga, Gosposka, mater si ozka, bi vsekakor lahko bila bolj\u0161a. Vendar sem takrat bil mlad in se mi je precej mudilo, knjigo sem si \u017eelel \u010dim prej prejeti v roke. Zdaj, veliko kasneje, pa vidim, da bi lahko knjigo napravil \u0161e bolj\u0161o. Meni je najljub\u0161a zbirka kratkih zgodb z naslovom\u00a0 Sadovnjak, ki obravnava razli\u010dne like iz socialnega ali dru\u017ebenega dna, tudi posebne\u017ee in ljudi, ki sem jih v resnici poznal. Vsem je skupno, da obti\u010dijo v nekih sanjah o bolj\u0161ih \u010dasih, \u017eivljenje pa gre mimo njih.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gradivo \u010drpate iz realnega \u017eivljenja?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Absolutno, vse tri knjige (Gosposka, mater, si ozka; Tadejev de\u017e ; Sadovnjak) \u00a0so pravzaprav povezane s tistim, kar sem sam do\u017eivel in kar sem sam videl. Ko sem \u0161e pisal, sem spadal med tiste pisatelje, ki v svojo literaturo vna\u0161ajo resni\u010dne ljudi in svoje lastne izku\u0161nje. Tudi sam raje berem tiste knjige, ki so napisane iz lastnih izku\u0161enj.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ali ste \u017ee kot otok radi brali?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sam sem imel kot majhen fanti\u010d precej te\u017eko otro\u0161tvo. Zame star\u0161i niso skrbeli in sem posledi\u010dno bil ve\u010dinoma po domovih. Edini izhod, ki sem ga videl, kamor sem se lahko umaknil, so bile knjige. V \u0161oli sem bil komajda zadosten. \u0160e danes \u010dudim, kako to, da sem sploh pri\u0161el do diplome. Edino kjer sem sodeloval, je bilo pri pouku sloven\u0161\u010dine, imeli smo namre\u010d profesorja Igorja \u0160krla, ki mi je pogosto v branje posodil kak\u0161no knjigo in potem sva se o prebranem pogovarjala. To me je v tistem \u010dasu re\u0161ilo. Spra\u0161ujem se, kje bi bil danes, \u010de ne bi bilo knjig.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rojeni niste na \u0160tajerskem, pa vendar pravite, da ste Bistri\u010dan \u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Iz Jesenic na Gorenjskem sem na \u0160tajersko pri\u0161el v popravni dom, star sem bil 17 let in imel sem narejenih pet razredov osnovne \u0161ole. Res je bilo hudo. Vendar je dom bil zame re\u0161itev v pravem trenutku. Odkar sem pri\u0161el tja, sem za\u010del hoditi naprej po bolj ali manj pravi poti. V Slovenski Bistrici sem \u017ee 20 let, res je, da sem sem pri\u0161el po naklju\u010dju. Rad imam to mesto, naravo imam pred vrati, tu imam prijatelje, tu se super po\u010dutim.<\/p>\n\r\n                <style type=\"text\/css\">\r\n                    \r\n                    #tdi_1  .td-doubleSlider-2 .td-item1 {\r\n                        background: url(https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O1-80x60.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;\r\n                    }\r\n                    #tdi_1  .td-doubleSlider-2 .td-item2 {\r\n                        background: url(https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O2-80x60.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;\r\n                    }\r\n                    #tdi_1  .td-doubleSlider-2 .td-item3 {\r\n                        background: url(https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-80x60.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;\r\n                    }\r\n                <\/style>\r\n\r\n                <div id=\"tdi_1\" class=\"td-gallery td-slide-on-2-columns\">\r\n                    <div class=\"post_td_gallery\">\r\n            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class=\"slide-gallery-image-link\" href=\"https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3.jpg\" title=\"O3\"  data-caption=\"Bistri\u010dan Orlando dr\u017ei v rokah knjigo doma\u010dina Zdenka Kodri\u010da, ki je iz\u0161la pri njegovi zalo\u017ebi.\"  data-description=\"\" data-gallery>\r\n                                <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-315x420.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-315x420.jpg 315w, https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-696x928.jpg 696w, https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-18x24.jpg 18w, https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-27x36.jpg 27w, https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3-36x48.jpg 36w, https:\/\/novice.si\/page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/O3.jpg 709w\" 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Vendar to zaradi razmer, kakr\u0161ne sem imel doma, ni bilo mogo\u010de. Komaj sem uspel kon\u010dati Srednjo \u017eivilsko \u0161olo, potem sem delal v klavnici v Mariboru, kasneje v mesnici Fingu\u0161t na Pragerskem, \u0161ele po kak\u0161nih dveh letih dela v mesariji sem za\u010del razmi\u0161ljati, da bi morda \u0161el kaj \u0161tudirati. Ta moja \u017eelja je bila zelo mo\u010dna. \u017delel sem si sicer na Pedago\u0161ko fakulteto, vendar nisem bil sprejet, ker nisem imel opravljene mature (splo\u0161no maturo ob zaklju\u010dku \u0161olanja opravljajo zgolj dijaki gimnazij, op. p.). Na Ekonomski fakulteti pa so sprejeli kar vse, tako da sem \u0161el na koncu na \u0161tudij ekonomije. In danes mi ni \u017eal, da sem diplomiral iz ekonomije. Knjige pa so mi zmeraj predstavljale nekak\u0161en vzporedni svet, v katerega sem se zatekal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zakaj brati?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Naj razlo\u017eim na principu bralnega paradoksa, kot mu re\u010demo. Z branjem se bralci umaknemo v domi\u0161ljijski svet, se umaknemo stran od realnega sveta. Ravno potapljanje v ta domi\u0161ljijski svet, v te zgodbe, v te usode, v te zares komplekse svetove, ki nam jih knjiga ponuja, pa nam pomaga razumeti realni svet, iz katerega se \u00a0umikamo. Jaz branje seveda vsakomur priporo\u010dam, nikakor pa nikogar ne \u00bbposiljujem\u00ab z branjem, ljudi ne sodim po tem, koliko berejo. Svojim otrokom posku\u0161am knjigo od zelo majhnega naprej predstaviti, potem pa \u2013 \u010de jih to ne zanima \u2013 jih seveda ne bom silil. Slej ko prej jih bodo knjige \u017ee sre\u010dale. \u010ce ne pa kaj drugega, kot na primer glasba.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ste velik ljubitelj literature. Kaj pa drugi segmenti kulture?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Neko\u010d je bila knjiga moja ljubica, danes je kruh. To je bistvena razlika. Na \u017ealost uspem \u010dasovno brat samo \u0161e rokopise. Redko kdaj si lahko privo\u0161\u010dim, da preberem kak\u0161na odmevna knji\u017ena dela. Seveda pa se potrudim brat. Tiste knjige, ki v posameznem letu zelo izstopajo, seveda preberem, da lahko argumentirano govorim o njih. Sicer imam zelo rad gledali\u0161\u010de, ampak \u017eal ni toliko \u010dasa, kot bi si ga sam \u017eelel. V\u010dasih sva z \u017eeno precej hodila v gledali\u0161\u010de, na koncerte in filmske festivale, zdaj pa imava dva mala otroka, poleg tega pa sva oba vpeta v delo s knjigami in je posledi\u010dno premalo \u010dasa. Seveda pa umetnost kot tako jemljem kot vodilo v mojem \u017eivljenju, ker se mi zdi da je ustvarjalnost tista identiteta, ki jo mora vsak narod imeti. To nas dela narod. Slovence nas dela, to kar smo, na\u0161a umetnost, na\u0161a literatura, na\u0161a glasba, na\u0161i filmi. V tem se odra\u017eajo razli\u010dna obdobja, razli\u010dni obrazi nekega naroda in se \u010dasovno spreminja. In to nas dela seveda to, kar smo. Ob tem pa se moramo zavedati, da je umetnost nekaj, kar ima \u010dlovek v sebi \u017ee iz predjamskih \u010dasov. Vpra\u0161am se, zakaj pa je pra\u010dloveka v jami ob\u0161la misel, da bi s kamnom porisal stene v jami? \u010clovek ima v sebi to, da se rad in se mora umetni\u0161ko izra\u017eati. Mislim, da je tudi zaradi umetnosti \u010dlove\u0161tvo napredovalo.\u00a0 Umetnost je tudi kdaj postavila ogledalo politikom, dr\u017eavnikom \u2026 Vemo namre\u010d, da je umetnost bila velikokrat tudi kriti\u010dna. Nenazadnje je bila slovenska dr\u017eava ustanovljena v Novi Reviji, vemo da so idejo o slovenski samostojnosti zagnali pesniki, samo spomnimo se Jo\u017eeta Pu\u010dnika iz Slovenske Bistrice. Tudi on je sodeloval pri tej reviji, pisal eseje, bil je v tem krogu. Ti ljudje so pravzaprav napisali Majni\u0161ko deklaracijo in jo tudi prebrali. Umetnost je torej absolutno pomembna za \u010dloveka in za narod.<\/p>\n<p>Ve\u010d o Orlando Ur\u0161i\u010du in o tem, kaj mu je v \u017eivljenju najpomembnej\u0161e, pa v oktobrski \u0161tevilki Bistri\u0161kih novic. (A. Sobo\u010dan)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pisatelj, urednik, zalo\u017enik, literat, leto\u0161nji prejemnik Glazerjeve listine, nagrade mesta Maribor za vrhunske dose\u017eke na podro\u010dju kulture. Vse to je Orlando, Bistri\u010dan, ki ima v Mariboru svojo zalo\u017ebo Litera. V nadaljevanju objavljamo del pogovora z Bistri\u010danom, ki se spra\u0161uje, kje bi bil danes, \u010de v tema\u010dnih trenutkih otro\u0161tva ne bi iskal tola\u017ebe prav v knjigah. 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